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I'm looking at a potential place to hunt geese.

The question is: How far will steel BB-shot go if you shoot into the air at, say, a 45-degree angle?

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Well ur supposed to b 150 yards from any house. Secondly I’d imagine it could go 200 yards maybe but anything over 150 I’d think it would just pepper it I doubt any damage would b done. Still wouldn’t wanna shoot right at a house but I’d guess a old barn or something it would just pepper it more or less.
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Thanks. I'd be a lot farther than 150 yards, but there are houses and barns about 300-400 yards out.
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It’s questionable if it did hit a house at 300 plus yards it wouldn’t b nothing more than u lofting a handful of B.B. at it from their yard. Your deff on what I’d consider outer limits of u even hitting em. Hopefully someone else with chime in.
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how far you need it to go? I kill geese feet down with 2 3/4 7.5 steel target loads.
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He’s asking to see if it’ll hit houses 300 yards away. If it will he can’t hubt there.
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It'll go 300 yards at that angle on a good day when conditions are just right. Higher velocity, tungsten, denser material might be a problem. Stick to steel bbs and you'll be fine. First hand experience on this one. Only once cracked some windows and it was because a few guys had some hot reloads. Needless to say they never got another invite.
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Have been rained on or been with others who rained on others 300 plus yards away.  Steel shot is lighter than lead and will slow down quicker and have less penetration over time but it still will fly a good ways.  Don't know how much risk the shot would be if it rained  down after traveling 300 yards away in terms of putting out an eye or doing any damage to a dwelling or window, etc. but I can tell you that anyone hearing the shot rain down on them or their property will more than likely be alarmed and  more than likely confront you or call the popo.  so despite the 150 yard requirement, best advice is to really no what  I around and try to avoid shooting anywhere that may get shot rained on to avoid confrontation. 

Hope you find a spot that works out safely.
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396 yds according to Journee's Formula.

pellet size (in inches) x 2200

0.18 (BB size) x 2200 = 396 yds

That's max distance, not effective distance.
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We have hit a neighbors house at 340 yds when the wind was blowing that direction.
No damage done but we don't shoot that direction any more.
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i will add that 300 is not out of the realm of possibility. and no, it wont have any energy, but it will be noticed by the owner, and likely not appriciated. 
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We have hit a neighbors house at 340 yds when the wind was blowing that direction.
No damage done but we don't shoot that direction any more.


What charge is this based on, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, or 2 oz.?
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What charge is this based on, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, or 2 oz.?


I agree with this question

If your finding that you need 3.5” bb to kill geese. Your doing it wrong
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What charge is this based on, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, or 2 oz.?


I have no idea. It was a couple of years ago. The home owner, whom I've known all my life, walked over and said on two of our volleys some of the pellets hit his house and shed. We have hunted there for years and he said this was the first time the house had ever been hit. The wind was blowing that direction 20 mph plus.
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I have no idea. It was a couple of years ago. The home owner, whom I've known all my life, walked over and said on two of our volleys some of the pellets hit his house and shed. We have hunted there for years and he said this was the first time the house had ever been hit. The wind was blowing that direction 20 mph plus.


Littleantler, My apologies, my question was in regards to the below formula.

396 yds according to Journee's Formula.

pellet size (in inches) x 2200

0.18 (BB size) x 2200 = 396 yds

That's max distance, not effective distance.
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Littleantler, My apologies, my question was in regards to the below formula.

396 yds according to Journee's Formula.

pellet size (in inches) x 2200

0.18 (BB size) x 2200 = 396 yds

That's max distance, not effective distance.


This formula was created over 100 years ago by a French ballistics expert General Journee. It's simply a baseline formula and was likely based on using lead shot and blackpowder in wadded shells vs. plastic wads we use now.

The formula was determined by measuring flight time over a distance and getting instantaneous velocities of the shot that way.  

Ed Lowry and others went more in depth on shot ballistics theory later on, but Journee's formula is still used as a quick baseline guesstimate for max distance (unless you want to get into the physics of the ballistics of multiple spherical objects fired from a gun.)
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Some great info here gents! Still scheming about how to set this one up.
Thanks to all!

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