Charliep

Registered: 11/11/06
Posts: 835
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Reply with quote | #16 |
Quote: Originally Posted by SlowBow Hardly. My initial intent was to alleviate some of what seemed "grave" concern about all the little button bucks being shot. As a whole, I think QDM is a good concept. But I do have a problem with the domineering way some try to administer it to the hunting community as a whole, like it`s the Holy Grail of hunting. I also have a BIG problem with the elitist QDM snobs we see rear their ugly heads here at MWC from time to time who act like anyone who shoots a forky or spike buck is one rung below Peta.
Have to agree with you Mike, Kind of sounds like Obama and the health care plans. It's all what he wants and not what is truly happening. I can't begrudge a guy that gets to hunt a day or two if he shoots a BB.
That was the biggest problem when I was at PWRC was the number of BB being killed. Folks that don't hunt that many days just don't wait on a "BIG/MATURE" deer...which kind of equates to public land harvests.
Now on the other hand I do look to try and make sure that it is not a BB before I shoot. It is not always antler size that makes the deer but the age/maturity of the animal. If you don't have the genetics and food you won't have the "HORNS" that QDMA says you will. I pracitce my own version of deer management that I think would go against the grain of most but works.
Just some thoughts from a simple mind.
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MarylandstateQDMA
Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 232
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Reply with quote | #17 | I also have a BIG problem with the elitist QDM snobs we see rear their ugly heads here at MWC from time to time who act like anyone who shoots a forky or spike buck is one rung below Peta.
I to have a problem when people that practice QDM try to post and it turns into a debate, and /or gets ugly. This is why I limit what and when I respond to posts. While these types maybe entertaining to some, I believe its not good for QDMA or MWC and/or Deer Hunting. This censorship (name calling, put downs,attacks on creditability) in most cases is is done when these persons have nothing to back up what ever they are trying to say. Or trying to twist the facts. QDMA memberships are up, Co-op being formed, properties where hunters are practicing QDM are getting awesome results. I'm not aware of any where any hunters are having negative results with QDM. QDM needs no defending the results speak for them its self. Folklore, miss info tends to have more impact then results? My thoughts were that MWC was a site for all Deer Hunters/ managers because as hunters we are managers. This is why there is this section. My guess is the info we The Maryland State Chapter QDMA provides is not needed or waited. I can fix that.
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SlowBow

Registered: 01/24/06
Posts: 4,949
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Reply with quote | #18 | Well, keep plugging away. I guess we can`t let a few morons who are more concerned with bone than a freezer full of meat ruin what could become a good thing for everyone. Don`t take that wrong, this was not directed at you or QDM in general, just the yahoos who post the Oh My God Stop Killing Little Buck threads. I`ll keep doing my little modified Public land QDM as well. But I wont promise that the little fork or maybe the spikey 3 I let walk a few times during the early splits of bowseason wont qualify as a target a few days before the gun opener. That`s one of my modifications. Let `em walk until I need the meat, and then put down whatever I can before the deer get run underground by the pressure. What can I say. A mans gotta eat.
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BobbieVelvet
Registered: 12/01/06
Posts: 91
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Reply with quote | #19 | Because you are not getting the replys, doesnt mean there are not people reading, learning and listening.
I had read somewhere that 90% of any site forums are lurkers or readers only.
Heck, here on MWC, there are upwards of 4 million hits a month.... but only 10,ooo posts per month.
So please dont get frustrated with outspoken people on either side of the coin.
It is a huge outlet to get information out, even though it seems like people dont listen.
ME, I always enjoy listening to both sides of the coin, then I end up doing what I want and make no apologies for it because I try and stay as educated on any and every subject I am interested in.
Its healthy and educated debate makes you grow.
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bowman
Registered: 09/21/07
Posts: 638
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Reply with quote | #20 | I can honestly say that MarylandStateQDMA is truly dedicated and passionate about QDM and deer management and the areas that the Maryland State Chapter are managing have changed dramatically in two to three years! There is a better balance of bucks and does which is better overall. The deer are more healthy, the bucks are getting bigger and the land is recovering from overbrowsing and the farmers/landowners are happy as their crops are producing again. QDM is not all about trophies, it is about deer management overall. If quality deer management is practiced, then all the rest will follow. The intent is not to force anything down anyone's throat, just to provide the facts and information to do what you will with it. We are just trying to help, that's all. To quote BobbieVelvet: "ME, I always enjoy listening to both sides of the coin, then I end up doing what I want and make no apologies for it because I try and stay as educated on any and every subject I am interested in. Its healthy and educated debate makes you grow."
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Passndinks

Registered: 01/06/08
Posts: 700
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Reply with quote | #21 |
Quote: Originally Posted by bowman I can honestly say that MarylandStateQDMA is truly dedicated and passionate about QDM and deer management and the areas that the Maryland State Chapter are managing have changed dramatically in two to three years! There is a better balance of bucks and does which is better overall. The deer are more healthy, the bucks are getting bigger and the land is recovering from overbrowsing and the farmers/landowners are happy as their crops are producing again. QDM is not all about trophies, it is about deer management overall. If quality deer management is practiced, then all the rest will follow. The intent is not to force anything down anyone's throat, just to provide the facts and information to do what you will with it. We are just trying to help, that's all. To quote BobbieVelvet: "ME, I always enjoy listening to both sides of the coin, then I end up doing what I want and make no apologies for it because I try and stay as educated on any and every subject I am interested in. Its healthy and educated debate makes you grow."
Very well said Bowman. E.W. isn't trying to rain on anyone's parade, just throwing some factual info out there for everyone to learn from. QDM WORKS WHEN USED !!! I believe whole heartedly in QDM, but I personally have NEVER condemned ANYONE on this site for exercising their right to harvest any deer within set guidelines and laws. Whatever makes you happy. But IF one may be interested in improving the quality of deer and deer hunting, please listen to what QDMA and it's representatives have to say.
Keep doing what your'e doing E.W. A job well done. |
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